Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B on Apple M5 Max (48 GB)

Can the Apple M5 Max (48 GB) run Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B?

Yes, it runs great

Runs great. At Q8_0 it needs about 13.1 GB of 36.0 GB usable, with an estimated speed of 41.1 tok/s.

Best quant: Q8_0
Generation speed: 41.1 tok/s
Prompt processing: 1,459 tok/s
First token (1K prompt): 0.7 s
Largest safe context: 8K

Best app to run it on the Apple M5 Max (48 GB)

On macOS

LM Studio

Desktop app · runs on llama.cpp, MLX · use the MLX build

Runs the MLX build, typically 20–35% faster than GGUF for a model with 8B active parameters on Apple silicon.
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Open Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B in LM Studio

MLX LM Runs the MLX build, typically 20–35% faster than GGUF for a model with 8B active parameters on Apple silicon.
Jan Runs the MLX build, typically 20–35% faster than GGUF for a model with 8B active parameters on Apple silicon.

Want an agent? Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B supports tool use, so you can pair a llama.cpp or MLX LM server with one of these. Apps that run on this computer come first.

Coding agents

Personal assistants

How we choose: the files published for this model, your operating system and GPU, whether it fits fully in memory, and published speed tests (MLX vs llama.cpp on Apple silicon, vLLM vs llama.cpp vs Ollama on NVIDIA). Details.

Download Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B

Recommended for the Apple M5 Max (48 GB): Q8_0. Every other quantization has its own download link in the table below.

Quantized files · GGUF

Works in LM Studio, llama.cpp, Jan and Ollama. No sign-in needed.

Download the Q8_0 file (opens in a new tab)

huggingface.co/NousResearch/Hermes-2-Pro-Llama-3-8B-GGUF (opens in a new tab)

ollama run hf.co/NousResearch/Hermes-2-Pro-Llama-3-8B-GGUF:Q8_0

Original weights · Hugging Face

Full-precision files from Nous Research, for fine-tuning, vLLM, Transformers.

huggingface.co/NousResearch/Hermes-2-Pro-Llama-3-8B (opens in a new tab)

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Links checked 3 days ago against Hugging Face, Ollama and GitHub.

How it’s rated

Quality 44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 68/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.: How capable the model itself is at Q8_0, from its editorial quality tier scaled by the quantization or precision. It’s the same on any hardware that runs this variant. Scale: A+ 85+ · A 70+ · B 55+ · C 40+ · D under 40.
Runs Runs great: How well it runs on the Apple M5 Max (48 GB): speed, capped by how well it fits in memory. Runs great: 30+ tokens/s (or near the image, video or decision speed target) · Runs well: 10+ tokens/s · Slow: 3+ tokens/s · Very slow: under 3 · Won’t run: doesn’t fit even with offload. A tight fit or RAM offload caps it at Runs well; heavy offload caps it at Slow.

Match score

To order lists, each result also gets a match score out of 100 from four parts. It favors the most capable model that still runs well.

Model qualityEditorial quality tier of the model, scaled by the quantization or precision used.	19.8 / 45
Memory fitFull marks when the model fits in the share of unified memory the GPU can use; fewer when it goes past that limit.	25.0 / 25
SpeedGeneration speed against a 40 tokens/s target for LLMs, or render time against a target for image and video.	15.0 / 15
Memory useRewards using the memory you have, so a bigger, better variant beats a tiny one that leaves most memory idle.	8.4 / 15
Match score	68.2 / 100

The match score orders results; it is not shown as a grade. Quality and Runs are the two ratings in the tables.

Every quantization on the Apple M5 Max (48 GB)

Quant	Memory needed	Available	Speed	Runs	Quality	Download
`Q2_K`	7.8 GB	36.0 GB	133 tok/s	Runs great	30Basic quality (D) · 30 of 100: how capable the model is at Q2_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 58/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.	GGUF files (opens in a new tab)
`Q3_K_M`	8.5 GB	36.0 GB	104 tok/s	Runs great	36Basic quality (D) · 36 of 100: how capable the model is at Q3_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 62/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.	GGUF files (opens in a new tab)
`Q4_K_M`	9.5 GB	36.0 GB	80.8 tok/s	Runs great	41Fair quality (C) · 41 of 100: how capable the model is at Q4_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 64/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.	GGUF (opens in a new tab)
`Q5_K_M`	10.3 GB	36.0 GB	66.8 tok/s	Runs great	42Fair quality (C) · 42 of 100: how capable the model is at Q5_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 65/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.	GGUF (opens in a new tab)
`Q6_K`	11.1 GB	36.0 GB	56.1 tok/s	Runs great	43Fair quality (C) · 43 of 100: how capable the model is at Q6_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 66/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.	GGUF (opens in a new tab)
`Q8_0`	13.1 GB	36.0 GB	41.1 tok/s	Runs great	44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 68/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.	GGUF (opens in a new tab)
`F16`	20.6 GB	36.0 GB	19.0 tok/s	Runs well	44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at F16, whatever it runs on. Match score 68/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.	GGUF (opens in a new tab) Original weights (opens in a new tab)

Memory figures assume 8K of context. Longer conversations or documents grow the KV cache.

Other hardware that runs it

44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 74/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Q8_0 · 42.9 tok/s · Runs great
44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 74/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Q8_0 · 52.3 tok/s · Runs great
44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 74/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER Q8_0 · 57.3 tok/s · Runs great
44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 74/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Q8_0 · 69.7 tok/s · Runs great
44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 74/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Q8_0 · 74.7 tok/s · Runs great
43Fair quality (C) · 43 of 100: how capable the model is at Q6_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 74/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Q6_K · 53.5 tok/s · Runs great

Quick answers

How much memory does Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B need on the M5 Max 48GB?

At Q8_0 it needs about 13.1 GB. The M5 Max 48GB has 36.0 GB usable.

How fast is Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B on the M5 Max 48GB?

About 41.1 tok/s at Q8_0, an estimate from the hardware’s memory bandwidth and the size of the model.

Which quantization of Hermes 2 Pro Llama 3 8B should I use on the M5 Max 48GB?

Q8_0. Of the versions that fit, it is the one that runs best; when two run equally well, the check prefers the higher-rated one.

Estimates come from published hardware specs and our open formulas, not from running the model on your machine. Real speed varies with runtime, drivers and settings. Numbers marked “Measured” come from a linked benchmark.