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Can the Intel Celeron J1800 / N3710 / 3865U NAS (32 GB) run Phi-3 Small 8K Instruct?

44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 56/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.

Barely: it runs very slowly

Very slow. At Q8_0 it needs about 11.6 GB of 26.2 GB usable, with an estimated speed of 0.2 tok/s.

Best quant
Q8_0
Generation speed
0.2 tok/s
Prompt processing
0.6 tok/s
First token (1K prompt)
1,681.6 s
Largest safe context
8K

Download Phi-3 Small 8K Instruct

Original weights · Hugging Face

Full-precision files from Microsoft, for fine-tuning, vLLM, Transformers.

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How it’s rated

Quality 44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 56/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.
How capable the model itself is at Q8_0, from its editorial quality tier scaled by the quantization or precision. It’s the same on any hardware that runs this variant. Scale: A+ 85+ · A 70+ · B 55+ · C 40+ · D under 40.
Runs Very slow
How well it runs on the Intel Celeron J1800 / N3710 / 3865U NAS (32 GB): speed, capped by how well it fits in memory. Runs great: 30+ tokens/s (or near the image, video or decision speed target) · Runs well: 10+ tokens/s · Slow: 3+ tokens/s · Very slow: under 3 · Won’t run: doesn’t fit even with offload. A tight fit or RAM offload caps it at Runs well; heavy offload caps it at Slow.

Match score

To order lists, each result also gets a match score out of 100 from four parts. It favors the most capable model that still runs well.

Model qualityEditorial quality tier of the model, scaled by the quantization or precision used.19.8 / 45
Memory fitFull marks when the model fits in the share of the NAS’s memory that models can use (the rest stays with the NAS system and its storage services); fewer when it goes past that limit.25.0 / 25
SpeedGeneration speed against a 40 tokens/s target for LLMs, or render time against a target for image and video.1.1 / 15
Memory useRewards using the memory you have, so a bigger, better variant beats a tiny one that leaves most memory idle.10.2 / 15
Match score56.1 / 100

The match score orders results; it is not shown as a grade. Quality and Runs are the two ratings in the tables.

Every quantization on the Intel Celeron J1800 / N3710 / 3865U NAS (32 GB)

Quant Memory needed Available Speed Runs Quality Download
Q2_K 6.7 GB 26.2 GB 0.7 tok/s Very slow 30Basic quality (D) · 30 of 100: how capable the model is at Q2_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 46/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. All files (opens in a new tab)
Q3_K_M 7.4 GB 26.2 GB 0.6 tok/s Very slow 36Basic quality (D) · 36 of 100: how capable the model is at Q3_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 49/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. All files (opens in a new tab)
Q4_K_M 8.3 GB 26.2 GB 0.4 tok/s Very slow 41Fair quality (C) · 41 of 100: how capable the model is at Q4_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 52/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. All files (opens in a new tab)
Q5_K_M 9.0 GB 26.2 GB 0.4 tok/s Very slow 42Fair quality (C) · 42 of 100: how capable the model is at Q5_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 53/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. All files (opens in a new tab)
Q6_K 9.8 GB 26.2 GB 0.3 tok/s Very slow 43Fair quality (C) · 43 of 100: how capable the model is at Q6_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 54/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. All files (opens in a new tab)
Q8_0 11.6 GB 26.2 GB 0.2 tok/s Very slow 44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 56/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. All files (opens in a new tab)
F16 18.6 GB 26.2 GB 0.1 tok/s Very slow 44Fair quality (C) · 44 of 100: how capable the model is at F16, whatever it runs on. Match score 60/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. Original weights (opens in a new tab)

Memory figures assume 8K of context. Longer conversations or documents grow the KV cache.

Other hardware that runs it

Quick answers

How much memory does Phi-3 Small 8K Instruct need on the Intel Celeron J1800 / N3710 / 3865U NAS 32GB?

At Q8_0 it needs about 11.6 GB. The Intel Celeron J1800 / N3710 / 3865U NAS 32GB has 26.2 GB usable.

How fast is Phi-3 Small 8K Instruct on the Intel Celeron J1800 / N3710 / 3865U NAS 32GB?

About 0.2 tok/s at Q8_0, an estimate from the hardware’s memory bandwidth and the size of the model.

Which quantization of Phi-3 Small 8K Instruct should I use on the Intel Celeron J1800 / N3710 / 3865U NAS 32GB?

Q8_0. Of the versions that fit, it is the one that runs best; when two run equally well, the check prefers the higher-rated one.

Estimates come from published hardware specs and our open formulas, not from running the model on your machine. Real speed varies with runtime, drivers and settings. Numbers marked “Measured” come from a linked benchmark.

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