Phi-3.5 MoE (42B-A6.6B) on Apple M2 (24 GB)
Can the Apple M2 (24 GB) run Phi-3.5 MoE (42B-A6.6B)?
Yes, but slowly (far over GPU memory limit)
Slow (far over GPU memory limit). At Q2_K it needs about 19.7 GB of 16.1 GB usable, with an estimated speed of 20.7 tok/s.
- Best quant
Q2_K- Generation speed
- 20.7 tok/s
- Prompt processing
- 338 tok/s
- First token (1K prompt)
- 3.0 s
- Largest safe context
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Best app to run it on the Apple M2 (24 GB)
On macOS
- Splits the model between GPU memory and system RAM, which this setup needs.
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Download Phi-3.5 MoE (42B-A6.6B)
Quantized files · GGUF
Works in LM Studio, llama.cpp, Jan and Ollama. No sign-in needed.
huggingface.co/lmstudio-community/Phi-3.5-MoE-instruct-GGUF (opens in a new tab)
ollama run hf.co/lmstudio-community/Phi-3.5-MoE-instruct-GGUFOriginal weights · Hugging Face
Full-precision files from Microsoft, for fine-tuning, vLLM, Transformers.
huggingface.co/microsoft/Phi-3.5-MoE-instruct (opens in a new tab)
Official repo · GitHub
Reference code, inference scripts and docs from Microsoft. The weights themselves download from Hugging Face.
github.com/microsoft/PhiCookBook (opens in a new tab)
git clone https://github.com/microsoft/PhiCookBookHow it’s rated
Match score
To order lists, each result also gets a match score out of 100 from four parts. It favors the most capable model that still runs well.
| Model quality | 17.6 / 45 | |
|---|---|---|
| Memory fit | 4.0 / 25 | |
| Speed | 10.8 / 15 | |
| Memory use | 15.0 / 15 | |
| Match score | 47.4 / 100 |
Every quantization on the Apple M2 (24 GB)
| Quant | Memory needed | Available | Speed | Runs | Quality | Download |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Q2_K | 19.7 GB | 16.1 GB | 20.7 tok/s | Slowfar over GPU memory limit | 39Basic quality (D) · 39 of 100: how capable the model is at Q2_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 47/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. | GGUF files (opens in a new tab) |
Q3_K_M | 23.5 GB | 16.1 GB | — | Won't run | 47Fair quality (C) · 47 of 100: how capable the model is at Q3_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 6/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. | GGUF (Q3_K_L) (opens in a new tab) |
Q4_K_M | 28.5 GB | 16.1 GB | — | Won't run | 53Fair quality (C) · 53 of 100: how capable the model is at Q4_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 7/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. | GGUF (opens in a new tab) |
Q5_K_M | 32.7 GB | 16.1 GB | — | Won't run | 54Fair quality (C) · 54 of 100: how capable the model is at Q5_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 7/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. | GGUF files (opens in a new tab) |
Q6_K | 37.3 GB | 16.1 GB | — | Won't run | 55Good quality (B) · 55 of 100: how capable the model is at Q6_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 7/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. | GGUF (opens in a new tab) |
Q8_0 | 47.3 GB | 16.1 GB | — | Won't run | 56Good quality (B) · 56 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 7/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. | GGUF (opens in a new tab) |
F16 | 86.7 GB | 16.1 GB | — | Won't run | 56Good quality (B) · 56 of 100: how capable the model is at F16, whatever it runs on. Match score 7/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking. | Original weights (opens in a new tab) |
Memory figures assume 8K of context. Longer conversations or documents grow the KV cache.
Other hardware that runs it
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55Good quality (B) · 55 of 100: how capable the model is at Q6_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 79/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.
Apple M4 Max (64 GB)
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55Good quality (B) · 55 of 100: how capable the model is at Q6_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 79/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.
Apple M1 Max (64 GB)
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53Fair quality (C) · 53 of 100: how capable the model is at Q4_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 78/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.
Apple M4 Pro (48 GB)
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53Fair quality (C) · 53 of 100: how capable the model is at Q4_K_M, whatever it runs on. Match score 77/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090
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56Good quality (B) · 56 of 100: how capable the model is at Q8_0, whatever it runs on. Match score 77/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.
NVIDIA RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell
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55Good quality (B) · 55 of 100: how capable the model is at Q6_K, whatever it runs on. Match score 75/100 (quality, fit, speed and memory use) sets the ranking.
Apple M4 Max (128 GB)
Quick answers
How much memory does Phi-3.5 MoE (42B-A6.6B) need on the M2 24GB?
At Q2_K it needs about 19.7 GB. The M2 24GB has 16.1 GB usable.
How fast is Phi-3.5 MoE (42B-A6.6B) on the M2 24GB?
About 20.7 tok/s at Q2_K, an estimate from the hardware’s memory bandwidth and the size of the model.
Which quantization of Phi-3.5 MoE (42B-A6.6B) should I use on the M2 24GB?
Q2_K. Of the versions that fit, it is the one that runs best; when two run equally well, the check prefers the higher-rated one.
Estimates come from published hardware specs and our open formulas, not from running the model on your machine. Real speed varies with runtime, drivers and settings. Numbers marked “Measured” come from a linked benchmark.